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ELA 12 Mods 12,13 May 13, 2008

Siddhartha 

From Chapter 9, I want to focus on two quotes:

But out of all secrets of the river, he today only saw one, this one touched his soul. He saw: this water ran and ran, incessantly it ran, and was nevertheless always there, was always an at all times the same and yet new in every moment! Great be he who would grasp this, understand this! He understood and grasped it not, only felt some idea of it stirring, a distant memory, divine voices.

and

“Did you,” so he asked him at one time, “did you too learn that secret from the river: that there is no time?”

Vasudeva’s face was filled with a bright smile

“Yes, Siddhartha,” he spoke. “It is this what you mean, isn’t it: that the river is everywhere at once, at the source and at the mouth, at the waterfall, at the ferry, at the rapids, in the sea, in the mountains, everywhere at once, and that there is only the present time for it, not the shadow of the past, not the shadow of the future.”

“This it is,” said Siddhartha. “And when I had learned it, I looked at my life, and it was also a river, and the boy Siddhartha was only separated from the man Siddhartha and from the old man Siddhartha by a shadow, not by something real. Also, Siddhartha’s previous births were no past, and his death and his return to Brahma was no future. Nothing was, nothing will be; everything is, everything has existence and is present.”

Two questions for tomorrow’s homework:

  1. What is the significance of Siddhartha’s revelation to his journey?
  2. What is the significance of Siddhartha’s revelation to you?

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6 Comments

  1.   michael gaudioso wrote:

    the signifackins of it is that he finaly relizes that their is no such thing at time and the river shoed him that by just being their.
    I do not have feeling towords this relalation or even this book but exept a deep hatred for wasting my time trying to learn something that I will never use in ten of my life times.

    Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm | Permalink
  2.   nate wrote:

    I’m going to say that the significance of his epiphany, is that he now understands fully the idea of being enlightened, what it really means. Throughout the book he has described it, described the elements of it, and the reasons for it. But I don’t think he really understood what it meant to be enlightened, I don’t think he realized the fact that he didn’t understand it either until now. It allowed him to fathom the concept, and imagine what it would feel like to be enlightened. As for the significance of his revelation to me, while means nothing to me, honestly.

    Tuesday, May 13, 2008 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
  3.   DJ Beaupre wrote:

    Siddarthas revulation to his journey is that he realizes that being enlightened means that he would be ever exsisting in the present that he would never be in the past yet he would never be in the future. Siddarthas revulation to me would be that life always has to be lived in the present you cant constantly look down the road into the future and expect to get there only through doing that. Its all one step at a time.

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 5:42 am | Permalink
  4.   Zuljin wrote:

    The significance of Siddhartha’s revelation to his journey is that he now understands that at any given moment he is himself and no one else. That he is in the present, not the future and not the past.
    The significance of Siddhartha’s revelation to me is that time doesn’t truly exist there is only the present. “Everything is, everything has existence and is present.”

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 8:00 am | Permalink
  5.   Mercedes wrote:

    It is significant because he now realizes that it is in possible for rivers to flow that way even if you want them to. And he figuered that out once he went to the river and saw it for himself

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 8:08 am | Permalink
  6.   Macalishus wrote:

    I think that the river represents him moving on in life and forgetting the past. He is now also getting old so he cannot remember everything.

    Wednesday, May 14, 2008 at 8:41 am | Permalink

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